
How Snapchat is Evolving in the Age of AI with Saral Jain, SVP, Head of Engineering
Modern CTO25 June 2026Watch on YouTube
Description
This is how Snapchat sets itself apart in the social media space: they’re not a social media company. Today, we're talking to Saral Jain, SVP and Head of Engineering at Snapchat, about how one of tech's most underestimated companies is quietly outpacing giants. We discuss why Snapchat has always refused to call itself a social media company and what that distinction means for every product decision they make, how AI is actually changing the day-to-day reality of software engineering through autonomous coding agents like their internal tool Casper, and why the skills that matter most in the AI era have less to do with writing code and everything to do with taste, judgment, and the willingness to raise your hand. All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! 00:00 – Introduction: Saral Jain, Snapchat's SVP of Engineering 00:21 – Snapchat's Core Mission and Massive Scale 01:40 – Saral's Favorite Feature: AR Lenses 02:25 – Generative AI Lenses and How They Work 03:25 – Competing With Facebook and X as a Smaller Company 04:15 – Why Snapchat Refuses to Call Itself Social Media 05:02 – Creation vs. Consumption: Why Snap Opens to the Camera 06:14 – How Snap Thrives Through Speed and Creativity 07:19 – AI Transformation Across the Engineering Workflow 08:30 – Inside Casper: Snap's Autonomous Coding Agent 09:48 – How Casper and CodePal Review Each Other's Work 11:05 – AI Agents Writing Code Is Happening Right Now 12:02 – How Casper Was Built in Three Weeks 13:13 – Why Casper Has a Waitlist of Hundreds of Engineers 14:25 – Treating Internal Tools Like Products 15:12 – What "Level Five" AI Coding (The Dark Factory) Really Means 18:14 – Why Human Judgment and Taste Will Still Matter 20:26 – Skill Atrophy: What Engineers Might Lose to AI 22:17 – What Saral Is Learning as a Leader Right Now 23:03 – How Snap Has Changed Its Engineering Interview Process 24:37 – What Saral Looks for in Direct Report Hires 26:36 – Whether Integrity Is a Teachable Skill 27:00 – Sign-Off and Closing
What you'll learn
- Snapchat positions itself not as a social media company but as a camera company, which influences every product decision and sets them apart from competitors
- Snapchat built an internal autonomous coding agent called Casper that helps engineers write code faster, working alongside tools like CodePal for mutual review
- AI is changing the day-to-day reality of software engineering, but human judgment, taste, and willingness to speak up still matter more than writing code
- Future-proof skills focus less on technical execution and more on making the right choices and evaluating AI-generated work
- Snapchat has adapted its engineering interview process to test new competencies for the AI era that were previously less critical